Northumberland league results week 16

[Chopfloat]

Washington 2-8 Venture Portraits
Rod Roberts 0 (only played 1 game,retired unwell)
Mark Shingler 0,John Williamson 1,plus doubles for Wahington.
Barry Richardson 3,Jimmy Scope 3 and Iain Wood 2 for Portraits.
Match played in a very civilised and sporting manner,so nothing to report in the way of incident or excitement!!:grouphug:

[Pengy]

Washington 2-8 Venture Portraits
Rod Roberts 0 (only played 1 game,retired unwell)
Mark Shingler 0,John Williamson 1,plus doubles for Wahington.
Barry Richardson 3,Jimmy Scope 3 and Iain Wood 2 for Portraits.
Match played in a very civilised and sporting manner,so nothing to report in the way of incident or excitement!!:grouphug:

its not like you jim playing in a civilised and sporting manner , every time we play u think ya clubber lang when he beat rocky , but we all know ya just a fool , c u next time chop chop float :thtease::thtease::thtease::thtease::thtease:

[Chopfloat]

its not like you jim playing in a civilised and sporting manner , every time we play u think ya clubber lang when he beat rocky , but we all know ya just a fool , c u next time chop chop float :thtease::thtease::thtease::thtease::thtease:
Steven,Steven and you wonder why you have no friends!!!!
:woot::boxing:

[Dave Robson]

Blaydon 8 - DSS b 2

The Blaydon bus keeps rolling along with outstanding performances from Shirley Gelder who won 2 and Jim the Greek who played well all night and also winning 2 in the process.

Blaydon:
Dave Robson won 3
Tony Gelder 2
Shirley Gelder 2
Doubles 1


Doubles Robson / T Gelder against Dave Swan / Richard Wilson

DSS b:
Jim Stamas (the Greek) 2
Richard Wilson 0
Dave Swan 0

[Mr Wilko]

results for RCSL A team week 16

Match cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just thought i would let you all know so you can all get out your :pinkhandbag: and have a twist!!!!!

[Chopfloat]

Well played Shirley!!!!:static::static:

[The Windmill]

St Chads 1....Birtley 9

Smith 3, Sangster 3, Aitkenhead 2 + dbles for Birtley

Weatherby 1, Blake 0, Bissett 0 for Chads

followed by a few beers in the Board Inn....very pleasant

[Chopfloat]

Good win,Dale.Are you now looking to retain the title???
The backlog of fixtures and lack of fit players seem to be a heavy weight on the shoulders of the Pengy.Could be faltering fast.
"Courage,Steven!do not stumble.
Though thy path be dark as night;
There's a STAR to guide the humble:
Trust in God and do the right."


Remember the transfer window is closing fast!!!:rol::rol::money::money:

[FantasyCheeseBasin]

birtley gaining ground fast so it seems,quality always shines through te he:star::meatpies:

[Mr Wilko]

Just got a 10-0 against Seaburn dean !!!!!!! Dont forget FCB we still have Birtley to play and if last time is anything to go by there will be another 10 points!!!!! HURAH :trumpet::trumpet:

[Dave Robson]

Hehehehehehe hotting up ...................

[The Windmill]

Just got a 10-0 against Seaburn dean !!!!!!! Dont forget FCB we still have Birtley to play and if last time is anything to go by there will be another 10 points!!!!! HURAH :trumpet::trumpet:

I think we (Birtley) are just about to get a 10-0 against Seaburn Dene too !!....As much like yourselves they have not responded to any of the 3 dates I gave them for the re arranged match. Bearing in Mind they called off the original on the day of the fixture. :woho:

However it gets back to a previous post.....Too many teams call off matches and then have no intention of arranging a replay....especially against a team that they are not likely to get any points from !!!!

[Dave Robson]

I think we (Birtley) are just about to get a 10-0 against Seaburn Dene too !!....As much like yourselves they have not responded to any of the 3 dates I gave them for the re arranged match. Bearing in Mind they called off the original on the day of the fixture. :woho:

However it gets back to a previous post.....Too many teams call off matches and then have no intention of arranging a replay....especially against a team that they are not likely to get any points from !!!!

Then the system set up within the league structure and fixture arrangement policy needs reviewing surely.

The cancelation of matches because the "strongest team" cannot be fielded should be considered un-ethical and certainly not acceptable. Reasons for cancelations should be written and adhered to or teams fined, with that system in place the tactical arrangement of fixtures would soon cease.

The simple strategy of "only two matches per season can be cancelled or re-aranged" is a simple one and can easily be applied ?

[HarryBelafonte]

Neslc tactics of putting of matches hoping the other teams will concede as they will lose anyway . looks likely to work with 2 teams about give them 20 points.
well done lads.:tomato:

[Chopfloat]

Neslc tactics of putting of matches hoping the other teams will concede as they will lose anyway . looks likely to work with 2 teams about give them 20 points.
well done lads.:tomato:
Unfortunately, this is the serious drawback to the point a set system.
If every match is played ,then at the end of the season the positions in the league would be a fair and representative standing.
As it is, every season has this ambiguous situation,that can caste doubt on the validity of prestige of the combatants.
I feel that heads must come together to come up with a more fair and reflective method.
Over to you Dale!!!!!! Posponements must be regulated.:pingbat::pingbat:

[Dave Robson]

The whole system needs a radical re-think if this is happening ........... get the heads together and work it out. Simple rules clear any ambiguity up.

The point Harry is making maybe harsh but if its happening then its as i mentioned previously .... un-ethical

[Mr Wilko]

As stated in previous thread Harry "Pot and Kettle springs to mind" !!!!

We have played 2 games with only 2 players giving away 6 points straight away b4 the night has began, we have only cancelled 2 games due to unable to get ay team at all (only 1 player available), other 2 cancelled by other team!!!!!

We have offered 2 teams 2 dates and one was unable to take either (like wise with Birtley) the other team we are still waiting confirmation of date (1 already turned down) is this our fault ...........errr.............NO.

Come on lads dont start throwing your :pinkhandbag::pinkhandbag: around just because you are not top of league, we are trying to get our games played that are in hand in next 2 weeks before we meet yourselves.

Rules should be a win = 3 points, a draw =1 point and a loss = Nil pwoet

:trumpet::trumpet::trumpet:

[Hitnhope]

Rules should be a win = 3 points, a draw =1 point and a loss = Nil pwoet

:trumpet::trumpet::trumpet:

Mr Wilko,

to be honest iam not so sure I agree with this.
Reason being it can lead to a team (with a good number 1 & 2 and a poor number 3) who win all their games 6 - 4 except one game which they lose 10-0 coming higher than a team with 3 good players who win most games 10-0, 9-1 but draw two games 5 - 5.

Which of these teams deserves to win the league? In my opinion it is the team who didnt lose a match all season.

[The Windmill]

Over to you Dale!!!!!! Posponements must be regulated.:pingbat::pingbat:

Harry is about to send in a letter to the league on this very subject and hopefully a robust discussion will occur at the next AGM and new rules implemented regarding postponed matches......If you have any ideas yourself....either come along or put pen to paper....

[Annie]

Harry is about to send in a letter to the league on this very subject and hopefully a robust discussion will occur at the next AGM and new rules implemented regarding postponed matches......If you have any ideas yourself....either come along or put pen to paper....

Well said Windy! :thumbsup:

[Mr Wilko]

I bet he dont mention himself (or Birtley) in this letter ???? :trumpet:

[Annie]

I bet he dont mention himself (or Birtley) in this letter ???? :trumpet:
:pinkhandbag: :pinkhandbag: at Dawn?

[The Windmill]

I bet he dont mention himself (or Birtley) in this letter ???? :trumpet:
I don't see why not....already spoken to the Chairman on this subject and he suggested this course of action.

We have nothing to fear or any hidden agenda

[Pengy]

results for RCSL A team week 16

Match cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just thought i would let you all know so you can all get out your :pinkhandbag: and have a twist!!!!!

william hills have got us 1 to 5 odds on to win the lge , :charlston::charlston::charlston: r u having a blast on that andy or not , :static::static: :trumpet::trumpet:.

[Dave Robson]

the issue is not who wins a local league or not, rather than is the system correct.

The major drawback with a point per match system is the fact it is open to abuse or in some cases manipulation of the points .......... this has been done in the past

example

a team has two two teams enetered in the same division lets say Team "A" and Team "B"

Team "A" is very successful nd needs nothing to survive within the division they currently in but their second Team "B" is at the bottom of the same division. Lets say the second Team "B" has to play the Team"A" to survive in the division........ the "B" Team suddenely aquires ten points from the "A" Team because they couldnt turn a Team out meaning the match was awarded to their second Team........ all a little cloak and dagger but yes has been done and quite legal too.

The ten points system is somewat dated and has fatal flaws unfortunately, having said that so does any system.

[FantasyCheeseBasin]

te he 1-5 at william hill,id sooner take the generous 3-1 that we are going to prevail,wonder if i should book that holiday to barbados to celebrate our upcoming victory hmm 3-1 at £200:coin: excelent........:pinkhandbag:

come on birtley:star:

[The Windmill]

te he 1-5 at william hill,id sooner take the generous 3-1 that we are going to prevail,wonder if i should book that holiday to barbados to celebrate our upcoming victory hmm 3-1 at £200:coin: excelent........:pinkhandbag:

come on birtley:star:

Come Come FCB......sorry to be harsh....but you have only played in 3 matches this season (Played 9 won 5, average = 55.56%) ...how can you be so confident ??

[Powerhouse]

Should all move to the British League set up - 2 points a win or draw for 3 - 3

[Mr Wilko]

eh 2 points a win or draw 3-3 ???? :dontknow: :dontknow:

[FantasyCheeseBasin]

Come Come FCB......sorry to be harsh....but you have only played in 3 matches this season (Played 9 won 5, average = 55.56%) ...how can you be so confident ??


oi your my team mate your suppose to help me out with the windups ya daft arse windy fart:joker:

[Mr Wilko]

He is just saying what others think FCB !!!!!! :woho:

Result from rearranged game V Blaydon

NESCL (RCSL) 7-3 BLAYDON
NESCL TEAM
Bart Vermohousen 2
Anth Barrella 2
Greame Barella 2 and DBLS

BLAYDON TEAM
Dave Robson 3 (he was on fire)
Tony Gelder 0 (Struggled through injury)
No 3rd Player

the pressure is mounting at the top of the league with only a few points in it between us (NESCL) and Birtley with this game still to play on 4th March, fingers crossed my return is next Thursday against Cramlington team with the young Scot Callum Main turning out for Cramlington. :rocker::rocker:

[Dave Robson]

Never mind "fingers crossed" keep them out of the fire !

[Mr Wilko]

Hey now i CAN cross them!!!!! would of liked to of played last night but need to think sensible and i think next week is right time to come back into the fire, i mean action:trumpet::trumpet::trumpet:

[The Windmill]

my return is next Thursday against Cramlington team with the young Scot Callum Main turning out for Cramlington. :rocker::rocker:

Come on Callum :-) :thumbsup:

[Dave Robson]

Callum ???? :joker:

[Mr Wilko]

Scottish lad who plays for Cramlington !!!!! (read the threads DaveR) not just whats under your nose :joker::joker:

Tough game for 1st match back hope im not sticking a :bag:over me head in shame

[The Windmill]

Callum ???? :joker:

Callum main.....Played 33, won 29......87.88%.....being coached by a top chinese player in Scotland....only a boy and in a development squad for 2012

[Neil MC]

Callum ???? :joker:
i think dave is taking the mick as he beat him :woho:

[Dave Robson]

Not me ............... never................. good player and a nice kid too ........ only jesting !:joker:

[Mr Wilko]

did he beat you like Neil?? i beat him 3-1 at Byker, he is not as good as Graeme Barrella, nice lad though big test even for 2012 will need vast improvement to stand any chance, but good luck to him!!!!!

[Robstar]

the problem of bending the rules has being going on 4 years and usually invovles same team and players nothing is done about it as the league committees are not strong enough Dave schofield tried 2 do something about it but received no support

[Neil MC]

did he beat you like Neil?? i beat him 3-1 at Byker, he is not as good as Graeme Barrella, nice lad though big test even for 2012 will need vast improvement to stand any chance, but good luck to him!!!!!
i would disagree with you andrew i think he is in a diffrent class to them now and yes he did beat me he is improving every week dont underestimate him may cost you your 100%

[The Windmill]

the problem of bending the rules has being going on 4 years and usually invovles same team and players nothing is done about it as the league committees are not strong enough Dave schofield tried 2 do something about it but received no support

There is a fine line to tread here....no point in upsetting people so they do not want to play in your league.....after all the idea is to get as many people participating as possible....

It does seem to be the same teams and players and we all know who they are....even the league committee know this.......but do you stop them from playing or fine them or what ??

It will come back to haunt them though as people will eventually realise that there are rules in place to avoid rule bending....they only need to be firm in implementing the rules......Its not always down to the league committee but the team secretary

[Dave Robson]

i would disagree with you andrew i think he is in a diffrent class to them now and yes he did beat me he is improving every week dont underestimate him may cost you your 100%

Cant lose 100% wen you aint playin Neil....................... :joker:

[Mr Wilko]

Only through injury not spitting DODDY................. ha ha :joker::joker:

As for Callum yes he is a good player and only 14 (i think) he has a lot to offer, and yes he could affect my 100%, he has beat some good players this season (NeilMC, Bart,Pengy) but personally i think Graeme is better and fingers crossed (now i can) he wont take my 100% but then again i have not played for around 3 month so........we will just have to wait till next thursday and see what happens eh ???????????

:trumpet::trumpet::trumpet:

[Annie]

Only through injury not spitting DODDY................. ha ha :joker::joker:
Some have Doddies and some have :trumpet:

Cast the first stone will ya?

[FantasyCheeseBasin]

the:pinkhandbag: are flying in here,te he, where is robstar maybe he can start a proper sports book on the outcome:coin:

[Dave Robson]

Only through injury not spitting DODDY................. ha ha :joker::joker:

As for Callum yes he is a good player and only 14 (i think) he has a lot to offer, and yes he could affect my 100%, he has beat some good players this season (NeilMC, Bart,Pengy) but personally i think Graeme is better and fingers crossed (now i can) he wont take my 100% but then again i have not played for around 3 month so........we will just have to wait till next thursday and see what happens eh ???????????

:trumpet::trumpet::trumpet:


Hehehehehe .................. bash him with your trumpet Andy !

On a serious note he did play well a few weeks ago against myself (i was lucky and won) but still has the "wild" shot choice with sometimes a one dimensional play style but as with everything only opinions and he is young and a great player. Maybe go with you on this one with Greame slightly ahead at this stage........... opinions :happy:

[Mr Wilko]

He is a bit like Greame though with only 1 game and if that is not working then he goes to pot, just needs a bit mixing up, a few heavy pushes tight serves, (just like most juniors these days) :charlston:push:charlston:

[Robstar]

windy simple solution table tennis is the only team game i know that allows postponements on a regular basis the rules should be in black and white only if sanctioned by league secretary should a game be cancelled you canot tell me that sum teams 5 or 6 games behind are playing in the true spirit of the game as these teams can draft in players from other teams in the past i have not accepted a poastponement and lo and behold the teams managed to turn out a team

[The Windmill]

windy simple solution table tennis is the only team game i know that allows postponements on a regular basis the rules should be in black and white only if sanctioned by league secretary should a game be cancelled you canot tell me that sum teams 5 or 6 games behind are playing in the true spirit of the game as these teams can draft in players from other teams in the past i have not accepted a poastponement and lo and behold the teams managed to turn out a team

The rules say you do not have to accept a postponment....just say no....simple as that !!

[Mr Wilko]

yep it is that simple !!!!!!!!! :fcb::fcb:

[The Windmill]

yep it is that simple !!!!!!!!! :fcb::fcb:

Most people...myself included are just too nice to do it.....but the harsh reality is that unless there are exeptional circumstances you must say NO

You know for weeks in advance when your matches are going to be and should make other arrangements around your fixtures....

[Annie]

Perhaps if a limit on cancellations per season were introduced? Say no more than 2? Then teams would be less inclined to cancel unless it was an emergency.

If you don't show you forfeit, simple! :redcard:

[Mr Wilko]

yep that is a good idea!!!!!

does that mean you can cancel 2 yourself or 2 in total (both you cancelling and an other team too)

[Annie]

Each Team can only postpone twice in a season. I think that's enough to cover Weddings and Funerals.

[Mr Wilko]

Or Firework injuries!!!!!!! :blowup:

[Mr Wilko]

well as stated before that is fine ny us as we have only posponed 2 games !!!!!

:danceman::danceman::danceman:

[Robstar]

in this case people see your kindness as a weakness