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DaveR
03-18-2008, 07:40 AM
It's more than 30 years since table tennis was last played at the Royal Albert Hall – a statistic which is unlikely to move to tears a nation grown indifferent to this most deft of sports. But when it does return to Kensington next Monday for the Dunlop Masters 2008, the occasion will be charged with sentiment for the thousands who have kept the faith, converging from all ping-pong-playing corners of the country. Not simply because of the reinstatement of table tennis to a once popular venue – many will not have seen it played there before – but because there is hope that this will initiate the return of table tennis in the wider sense. It's not a loud or much voiced hope; table tennis players by their nature don't go in for vociferousness or optimism. We play in cramped conditions, practise the astute but gloomy wit that characterises the game, and are used to stifling our emotions. But it's a hope all the same. Certainly I feel it rising in my chest. Could table tennis be coming back? So the question has to be asked: where has table tennis been?


It's a double-sided question. Where has the game been as spectacle? Once upon a time crowds would pack not only the Albert Hall to see the world's greatest players, but Wembley Arena as well, where they would sit in their raincoats and chain-smoke to calm their nerves, table tennis, like darts and snooker, being one of those games that are watched best through a tobacco fug. And where has it been as a humble, grass-roots sport played wherever there was a sports or social club with a room big enough (or small enough) to put up a table?

The second is easier to answer. Prosperity happened, television happened, good times, eating out, binge-drinking, the internet happened. When I played table tennis in the Manchester and District League in the 1950s – long before those other distractions had been invented – there were four divisions, the third divided into north and south, the fourth into north, south, east, west and central, plus two women's divisions. Each division had about a dozen teams, each team fielded five players, not counting reserves, hangers-on, drivers, tea-makers, ball-fetchers, and those who just wanted some of the glitter of the game to rub off on them. Multiply that by the number of towns and districts in the country and that's half the adult population who played competitively. You only had to go out into the street holding a bat and someone would challenge you to a game. Now they knife you for your bat, or they would if they knew what the bat was for.

But it also has to be admitted – and this links the second of my questions to the first – that the game changed radically, too. Technologically, it grew more complex, more sophisticated, and at last more specialised. The only progression you needed to make in the early days of table tennis was from the sandpaper bats with which you thrashed your mother on the dining-room table, to the rubber pimples on plywood with which, without changing it in the slightest, you could go on to become world champion. Sometimes, even in the higher divisions, you would come across a canny veteran who was still effective using sandpaper. We were blithe about our equipment then, as we had every right to be: it was our brains we played with. Then, in the mid-Fifties, the sponge bat appeared like a new planet from the East. Hiroji Satoh, of whom no one had then heard, stole the world title from under the noses of the Europeans and the Americans using a hand-held mattress.

The beginning of the end, or the beginning of the beginning? Soon afterwards, anyway, table tennis fell under the spell of a host of petro-chemical surfaces which themselves took considerable mastering even before you came face to face with an opponent. But once you had mastered them, they did the winning for you. That was how it looked to the great American showman Marty Reisman, one of those fancied to win the World Championships the year sponge, and Hiroji Satoh, nicked it. "Satoh's racket did the work for him," Reisman wrote. "Probably no one in the history of sport ever won an international title more easily. No one could give him – or rather his racket – any competition."

Sour grapes? No. Still alive, still playing competitively, still in possession of the most exquisitely musical hard-bat forehand, Reisman continues to feel he was cheated of that World Championship by a wodge of sponge. But it's for the sake of the beauty of the game – the beauty of it in itself, and as spectacle – that he goes on campaigning, more than 50 years after sponge appeared, for a return to the old "penny-ante" bats. It's a losing cause, but a noble one.

With sponge, the sound, and thus the dialogue, went out of table tennis. It was like playing with a foam pillow; you didn't so much play the ball as smother it half to death. The glossier sandwich bats that followed, as the game struggled to keep up with the diabolic ingenuity of equipment manufacturers, shone like iced-over mirrors. The ball slid off at speeds the eye could not detect, each player's spin serve was unreturnable, rallies which once upon a time, had lasted so long (two and a half hours for a single point was the record set in Prague in 1936) that the authorities had been forced to introduce a time limit, were now over before they had begun. Hurry entered the hitherto timeless terrain of table tennis.

For many of us who'd grown up pimpled, like Reisman, the change, not just in the tempo but in the atmospherics – the sound, the mood music, the clothes even – little by little turned us off the game. It had been a sort of chess in shorts originally. Part sport, part game, part conversation. We wanted to win, of course, but winning had not been everything; we enjoyed the companionable exchange of discourse, endeavouring to out-think, even to out-philosophise one another, on the table, the net a sort of proposition, our bats the power of our minds to address it. And we hadn't been in any rush to win and then be gone, because we had nowhere else to go to.

From the start, table tennis had attracted deracinated intellectuals, thinkers, depressives, sun-avoiding contemplatives and melancholics. The first official world champion was Dr Roland Jacobi, a Hungarian attorney. Note the doctorate. In photographs I have seen of him, he plays without removing his cardigan. No sweat. His nationality, too, I take to be significant. If you discount the Englishman
Fred Perry – as accomplished in table tennis as in tennis, and founder of that empire of casual clothing you wouldn't want to be seen dead in outside a golf house – every world champion for the next 25 years came from one dejected outpost of the Austro-Hungarian Empire or another. In 1926, the Hungarian Maria Mednyanszky won the first of her five consecutive world titles. In 1930, Victor Barna, also from Hungary, won the first of his. Seven years later, the Viennese-born Richard Bergmann became the youngest player ever to be World Champion. Vienna, Prague, Budapest – those were the game's great breeding grounds. I discovered table tennis at the same time as I discovered Richard Tauber. The boys I first played with were no different. Win or lose, we'd walk home from a match singing "I'm in Love with Vienna", or the "Blue Danube" waltz. On the face of it we lived and played in Manchester, but in our hearts we were in the Vienna Woods.

After the Nazis invaded Austria, Bergmann fled to England and eventually became a member of the English team. But he remained Austro-Hungarian in his stroke play, specialising in winning from losing positions, defending so far back from the table that his opponent could barely see him, scraping up balls only inches from the floor, an exhibition player even in the midst of the most intense competition.

One of the last great matches played at the Albert Hall was between Barna and Bergmann. Barna backhand-flicking to every corner of the table, Bergmann retrieving sometimes from as far back as the steps of the Albert Memorial in Kensington Gardens. Barna's backhand was perhaps the greatest stroke the game has ever seen. Certainly, in its laconic and disdainful wristiness, it quintessentialised table tennis for me. He didn't charge around the table, he didn't throw his whole body into every shot, he picked his moment imperiously – you could say as though intending to swat a fly, except that he knew precisely which part of the fly he intended to swat – and turned over his wrist. A simple flick, and that was the last the person opposite ever saw of the ball, unless he was Richard Bergmann.

Once every 15 years, on the few occasions I still play – and when I do I play with an old-fashioned, kerplock-kerplock hard bat – I find the Barna flick I spent the best years of my youth trying to emulate, and then I understand what the mystics mean by perfect stillness. The bat, the ball, the will to succeed, become fused in an arc of supreme effortlessness. And for that one moment it is as though the hand is the pure instrument of one's will, boneless, fluid, lethal. It is not another player one has got the ball past – the other player, strictly speaking, is an irrelevance – it is impediment itself, frustration, obstruction, everything that usually stands between you and happiness.

Hard to explain why the joy of that can never be recaptured, at least for me, with any instrument other than the pimpled hard bat. Do it with a modern racket and the ball flies off flatter, faster, too, of course, but the velocity has less to do with insouciance or the perfection of your timing than the reversed rubber with 2.1mm of sponge and the speed glue with which you've affixed it to the blade of your bat. Because, yes, glue too is what the game is now about, glue having been discovered to affect the characteristics of the rubber, its capacity to hold the ball back as well as increase its devilish spin and speed.

The solvent fetishism of modern table tennis is a source of comedy to those of us who bought our bats ready made-up and never did a thing to alter them except perhaps replace the tape around the handle once or twice in the whole of our careers. Now, you peel off the rubbers after every match, what you know of your next opponent determining the rubbers you glue back. For this you must carry around in your sports bags not only sheets of rubber and pots of glue, but scissors, penknives, emery paper, edging tape. When speed glues were first invented, some were so toxic that members of the audience fainted when a player changed his rubbers at the table or fanned his bat in their direction. Since then, safety guidelines have been laid down and players must glue-up in rooms assigned for that purpose. If you didn't know that these were table tennis players recreating the perfect bat, you would take them for model ship or aircraft enthusiasts, cutting and gluing in monastic silence.

Fascinating though they are to those on the inside, these developments in the technology of table tennis have, over the past 20 or 30 years, given the game a sort of secret language, barely known to those who don't play competitively and thus driving a wedge between players and their audience. Where you don't know the language, you can't be expected to appreciate the artfulness. This, of course, does not hold true for Asian audiences who took to table tennis from the moment Hiroji Satoh changed its science and its geography. The new fast game suited the physiques and temperaments first of the Japanese and then the Chinese. And they brought to it an athleticism it had never known or needed previously. While the game turned more and more in on itself in Europe, in China, whose players have been all but unbeatable for decades, it became the national sport. No event will be watched with more fervency by the home crowd in the coming Beijing Olympics than table tennis.

Perhaps part of the guarded optimism that table tennis is ready for a return here is anticipatory of the effect of televised Olympic table tennis this summer. Perhaps, too, the time is right. We old diehards of the thinking hard-bat game must concede, finally, that though it is not what it was, what it is can be astonishing to watch. We are not without European players, either, who can mix it with the Chinese. The greatest of them, for decades now, has been the Swede Jan-Ove Waldner, whose breathtaking close-to-the-table inventiveness won him world titles in 1989 in Dortmund and 1997 in Manchester. I watched him win in Manchester, his style a perfect synthesis, to my eye, of old and new – depressed, cold-climate, introverted European, and coiled, spiced-up lightning-fast Chinese, locked away in the mind somewhere, but exuberant at the moment that the racket hits the ball. No one interested in sport should not have seen Waldner commanding a table tennis table, making that little space an everywhere. And he will be playing at the Albert Hall on Monday.
But the real driving force behind this event and its associated excitement is Matthew Syed, not long ago the English No 1, now a well-regarded journalist and a supreme activist for table tennis. I loved Syed's game. Had I been born born 30 years later and not wanted to be Barna or Bergmann, I'd have wanted to be Syed. He was the last of the great defenders, never quite going to Bergmann's lengths of retrieving from another room, but no less astonishing in his defensive instincts, knowing just how much time was left to him before the ball hit the floor, and just how long it was going to take to wear down his opponent's patience. In competition, it was always Syed who drew the biggest crowds. And the biggest sighs if he lost. People love to watch defensive table tennis. It keeps a game alive, it brings the best out in an opponent, and it gives the illusion – at the heart of the game, I think – of perpetual motion. The most heart-stopping player is not the one who hits so fast that the ball becomes invisible, but the one who can never be passed. I used to dream of such a figure, inhabiting the darkness at the far end of the table, returning everything I threw at him. What I could never decide was whether he was God or the Devil.

Well, for those who care for the future of table tennis in this country, Syed is not the Devil. Had he played before sponge he would have been impregnable. But the modern game favours the hitter. Think of defending against speed-glued rubbers as like playing the roulette wheel: yes, you will have your successes, but in the end the odds favour the person doing the spinning. His indefatigability serves him well, however, as an inspirational entrepreneur for table tennis. He knows how to sell it to the players. He knows how to sell it to television. And he knows how to drum up the sponsorship. Above all, he knows what it is going to take to prise the game out of its parochialism in this country and restore its damaged self-esteem.

Instrumental to that ambition is the Greenhouse Schools Project that will be the beneficiary of Monday's Dunlop Masters showdown. The Greenhouse Schools Project aims generally to "transform the lives of young people aged 11-16 by engaging them in sports and arts activities". Table tennis is one of those activities. It is hoped that 20 children will be sent to China to attend the Beijing Olympics, where they will be coached at a special training camp from which they will return, if not champions, then at least happy, if a happy table tennis player is not a contradiction in terms.

That the experience will transform them, one way or another, I don't doubt. Not just the travel, but the game itself. Table tennis certainly transformed my life. It took my shyness and dejection and found expression for them. It socialised me. It married grandiosity to modesty. This is the great benefaction of table tennis. Because of its homely origins – played on kitchen tables and in the basements of seaside boarding houses, played wherever there's a hotel or holiday camp, a works canteen, a Conservative club, a prison – everyone believes they can play. And everyone can, a bit. Unlike pole-vaulting or polo or lacrosse, it is within the reach of all peoples of all ages and incomes.
So when you see it at its spectacular best, as on Monday, what you are watching is just yourself gone up a notch. Or two.

We will have some results and more news on how it goes.........

Unless you went yesterday that is of course !

Hovis Bread Eater
03-18-2008, 08:57 AM
I thought the whole concept was very good.

I see Grant Solder is looking more like his dad these days.

DaveR
03-18-2008, 09:24 AM
should do more of these things for the promotion of the sport..........ETTA please stand up and move forward with the times !

DaveR
03-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Kreanga Master..................

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Results from the enthralling Table Tennis Masters.

Quarter-Finals
Darius Knight v Kalinikos Kreanga 4-11, 9-11, 2-11
Paul Drinkhall v Chen Weixing 10-12, 9-11, 5-11

Semi -Finals
Jan-Ove Waldner v Kalinikos Kreanga 11-13, 8-11, 7-11
Jean Michel Saive v Chen Weixing 11-7, 7-11, 3-11, 5- 11

Final
Chen Weixing v Kalinikos Kreanga 8-11, 11-9, 10-12, 11-5, 6-11


Richard Pettit

Courtesy ETTA

MK Chris
03-18-2008, 12:59 PM
Psst! It was the Royal Albert Hall in London (see thread title).

It was a cracking evening, we drove to Hendon and then got the Tube, to avoid the congestion and parking charges.

I have to say, Waldner was disappointing. He clearly didn't try an inch for pretty much all of his match; Mrs MK Chris and I agreed that we'd rather have seen someone who at least looked like they wanted to be there (she wanted Timo Boll, but that's less to do with watching him play table tennis..) By contrast, Jean-Michel Saive probably made more new fans than anyone, including Darius and Paul. He was great to watch and a very good sport. Fantastic point where he jumped over the barrier and carried on lobbing to Chen.

In the end, we were allowed cameras, but I didn't have mine on me. Mrs MK Chris had her camera (as it's smaller and easier to hide), which doesn't have quite as good a zoom as mine, but they came out well, so when I get hold of them, I'll upload a few.

DaveR
03-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Nice one Chris love to see them, and ill put them on large if you can resize.......cheers

SammyBoy
03-18-2008, 01:04 PM
Its nice to see things like this arranged and well done to those who did, im assuming it was Mr Syed so good on you and although i did not attend look forward to the snaps by our friend MK.

Loopy
03-18-2008, 03:35 PM
In relation to the Greenhouse Schools Project there is currently a Table Tennis Position........

Head Table Tennis Coach (School based)
Salary: £TBC depending on experience
Closing Date for Applications: March 7th 2008

The role:
Demonstrating and utilising strong mentoring skills with an ability to manage young person centred sports programmes, the Head Coach is responsible for the planning, designing and delivering of an open inclusive programme of Table Tennis to all young people in the school. The role also involves coordinating a range of after school, weekend and holiday programmes, including developing players to enter into the school, local, regional and national competition structures. Both Greenhouse and the Harefield Academy will provide regular training and development as each coach enters into a structured Continuous Professional Development programme.

Job Application (http://www.greenhouseschools.org/pdf/Jobs/Job%20Application%20Form.pdf)

Job Description (http://www.greenhouseschools.org/pdf/Jobs/TTK%20Harefield%20Head%20Coach%20JD%20&%20Person%20Spec.pdf)

DaveR
03-19-2008, 11:39 PM
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A spectacular showcase of table tennis was rounded off by a master class display by the passionate pocket rocket from Greece, Kalinikos Kreanga. His dynamic game proved too strong for the rest of the field despite the resilient and controlled efforts of his final opponent Chen Weixing.[/font]

Darius Knight v Kalinikos Kreanga 4-11, 9-11, 2-11 (Quarter-Final)
Kreanga commenced his road to victory with an emphatic win against England no.3 and local hero Darius Knight. Knight looked out of his depth as the diminutive Greek international delivered his ferocious attacking game to perfection. For Knight this was a swift lesson in the lime light and perhaps a reality check of just how far he has to travel to be able to compete, entertain and deliver in the harsh world of senior international table tennis. However, at just 18 Knight did appear remarkably relaxed in front of the 4,000 spectators who willed him on as he demonstrated glimpses of brilliance. Let’s hope he can continue to fine tune these skills on his path to 2012 success

Jan-Ove Waldner v Kalinikos Kreanga 11-13, 8-11, 7-11 (Semi-Final)
Kreanga then went on to face one of the all time greats of table tennis, Jan-Ove Waldner. In as a late replacement for Timo Boll (injured), Waldner looked a shadow of his former self as neither his world-renowned service or versatile forehand loop could halt the progress of the relentless Kreanga who stepped up time and time again with vicious and unstoppable topspins from both sides of the table, and progressed to the final with relative ease.

Paul Drinkhall v Chen Weixing 10-12, 9-11, 5-11 (Quarter-Final)
On the other side of the draw Chen Weixing started against England no. 1 Paul Drinkhall who is undoubtedly the most exciting prospect English table tennis has seen for many years. He announced his presence on the world table tennis scene at just 16 by taking the reigning Olympic Champion, Ryu Seung Min, to three match points until finally losing out in the seventh 6-11,7-11,11-9,11-7,4-11,11-9,13-11, so he is no stranger to pressure situations. With the home crowd firmly behind Drinkhall the Royal Albert Hall buzzed in anticipation of a possible shock. The game had excitement and drama combined with some astonishing footwork and dazzling shots. However, Weixing’s brilliant interpretation of defensive play proved too tricky for the young Englishman (this time) who bowed out in front of a suitably impressed crowd.

Jean Michel Saive v Chen Weixing 11-7, 7-11, 3-11, 5-11 (Semi-Final)
Weixing then embarked on what was, for many, the highlight of the evening - a match against former world no.1, and real crowd pleaser, Jean Michel Saive. This match had everything, including barrier jumping, as the classic table tennis defence verses attack scenario unfolded in front of delighted onlookers. Saive, a past master at winning over the crowd, displayed not only impeccable timing with his shots, but humour to boot. He shared in the audience’s amazement as he glanced over his shoulder and gazed at the slow motion replays of himself before commencing with the next point. Weixing clearly enjoyed the banter but keep one eye squarely on the final finishing off the fourth game 5-11. As Saive left the court the crowd showed their appreciation with a standing ovation as calls for an encore resonated around the famous auditorium.

Chen Weixing v Kalinikos Kreanga 8-11, 11-9, 10-12, 11-5, 6-11 (Final)
The final was strictly business and went to the wire. A focused audience looked astonished by the consistency and lightening reactions on display. In the end Kreanga’s power proved too dominant as Weixing tired in the fifth. An emotional Kreanga spoke after about his affinity with the English public and desire to return. Let’s hope he can, and let’s hope that this is the beginning to more top class international table tennis visiting these shores, there is certainly an appetite for it.

Celebrity
In addition to the fantastic table tennis, there was also a celebrity challenge. The celebs Glenn Hoddle, John Barnes, Jason Harper and Jonathan Edwards warmed up with a multi ball session and some words of advice by top coach Grant Solder. They then played a doubles match in which Hoddle and Barnes somehow managed to win 12-10.

Table Tennis Talk View
The event highlights how Table Tennis can be a major force in sporting events, which hopefully can be followed up by the ETTA. Media is deffinitely the way forward in any sporting success with full exposure to the public being paramount in this venture.

Well done and a success all around it must be said.

Tinykin
03-21-2008, 04:54 PM
I read somewhere that Kreanga has competed in either the British League or Grand Prix. Does anyone remember seeing him?

DaveR
03-21-2008, 05:15 PM
I havnt yet but will ask around, great player to watch

Jose
03-21-2008, 10:52 PM
Alan says that Kalinikos Kreanga was part of the Ormesby team which won the British League in 1991. Also in the team were Chen Xin Hua, John Broe, Nigel Eckersley and Richard Yule. Ormesby won the title that year with Grove second. The Grove team included Desmond Douglas and Alan Cook. (Will confirm the exact team members as it was a long time ago!)

HarryBelafonte
03-21-2008, 11:54 PM
:thumbsup: was playing on next table when kreanga played,think i played prob for sunderland or darlington in div one north.
Remember kreanga playing cookie.
hit one backhand of the barrier,completely amazing, one of the best matches I have ever seen,....
cant remember who was on my team,did not matter as no one was interested in our match ..:woho:
did chen beat Des,cant remember,anyone who was there can you let me know who won what,ormsby won tho..

Mr Wilko
03-23-2008, 11:48 PM
did chen ever beat des???

i think i played there also was playing for Ormesby 3rd team when just a little whipper snaper, you would of been playing for sunderland fonte as darlington did not have a team in them days, only started when Ormesby started to crumbl!!!!

HarryBelafonte
03-24-2008, 11:10 AM
cheers wilko,memory on the blink,will happen to you in 8 or 9 years...:covereyes:

Mr Wilko
03-24-2008, 12:06 PM
no probs Harry!!! pleased you can now remember my name!!!!! ha ha

Jose
03-24-2008, 12:13 PM
The answer is yes. Alan recalls that Xinhua beat Des in the British League when Des was playing for Bath at Bath Sports Centre. Chen Xinhua played close to the table with very heavy fast chops.

HarryBelafonte
03-24-2008, 08:24 PM
damm,memory recall mr wally.....

Mr Wilko
03-24-2008, 08:30 PM
The answer is yes. Alan recalls that Xinhua beat Des in the British League when Des was playing for Bath at Bath Sports Centre. Chen Xinhua played close to the table with very heavy fast chops.


nice one Jose & Alan you 2 are like a tt encyclopedia!!!!



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MK Chris
04-29-2008, 02:57 PM
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Jose
04-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Wow! There's a great photographic record of the evening at the Royal Albert Hall!

The Windmill
04-30-2008, 08:22 AM
Good to see the photo's thanks.....quite an impressive setting in the Albert Hall. It was a shame it was in London on a Monday night, as it was too far to travel for myself midweek. I can remember going to see England play a few years ago at Leeds town hall I think, which was also a great setting. It would be good to see a similar event some where in the North.

DaveR
04-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Absolutely incredible Chris ..............ill resize them and upload to the gallery also......anyone with pictures like this id like to see more added.......

Thanks

Dave

also ill reload them in the post so they have our watermark etc

nice one - great shots

Mr Wilko
04-30-2008, 08:12 PM
how anyone can say waldner didnt try is beyond me he is over 40 and all though lost 3-0 to kreanga he was still close and come on kreanga won and was just too fast!!!!

looking at results kreanga beat knight who is a quality player with ease showing how good he really is......... waldner is to old for this standard!!!!!

MK Chris
05-01-2008, 09:09 AM
Waldner just didn't look like he wanted to be there in my opinion.

Kreanga, to be fair, clearly wanted to win, where the others were putting a bit of exhibition on.

DaveR
05-01-2008, 11:20 PM
Barnes and Hoddle !

The article as a few will have seen was from the BBC site but is actually quite funny and worth a read but as said will it motivate some more to take part in the sport !

I thought the days when I'd be able to see John Barnes leap into the air with delight, hug a team-mate and lift a trophy at a top tournament were over.

But there he was, being bear-hugged by Glenn Hoddle, as James Harper and Jonathan Edwards tried to look gracious in defeat.

Hoddle and Barnes had just won a game of doubles table tennis against Reading midfielder Harper and former Olympic champion Edwards - though only by virtue of Harper, a keen table tennis player, having the handicap of a tiny bat.

This bizarre sideshow took place in the middle of the Dunlop Masters tournament at the Royal Albert Hall, which makes a surprisingly good table tennis venue.

We had a cracking view of the action and somehow the regal atmosphere lends itself to watching blokes scampering about, playing this most British of games.

Like most games we invent, we're struggling to win anything - Barnes and Hoddle could be the only Brits lifting silverware this year.

Our top two stars, Paul Drinkhall and Darius Knight, are both teenagers and still learning their trade. Their hopes are pinned on London in 2012 rather than Beijing this year.


I'm currently reigning office champion, by virtue of a dodgy bounce off garden furniture
There's a long way for them to go, which was made obvious when they were both dispatched by their opponents in the first round (although those opponents, Chen Weixing and Kalinkos Kreanga, went on to contest the final, which Kreanga won).

Knight spoke briefly to the crowd after his match and handled a few stock questions about playing in a big arena, and the 2012 Games. Drinkhall - the GB number one - wasn't even afforded that chance.

It's a shame the pair couldn't have been given a slightly better platform. Sport is about personalities and watching someone hopping up and down at the end of a table, even in the Royal Albert Hall, won't convey that.

Speaking to them earlier in the afternoon they were bright, bubbly and enjoying the day, and it would have been good to see that shine through to the young fans in the crowd and watching at home. Maybe things were better on telly than in the arena.

If table tennis thinks it suffers an image problem, the sight of Barnesy hoisting a trophy aloft might help to some degree, but the sport needs to show off its young stars.

That said, the evening has had its desired effect on at least one person.

I've hardly been able to put my bat down since leaving. BBC Sport don't have a proper table but we've commandeered what amounts to some old garden furniture. I'm delighted to report I'm currently reigning champion, by virtue of a dodgy bounce off the hole where you'd normally put the parasol in the table.

Did you see the Masters? Has it persuaded you to get the bat and mangled net out of an obscure under-stairs cupboard? Or will it take more than Glenn Hoddle in tracksuit bottoms to get you back into table tennis?