Nationals Draw....Top Seeds etc

[DaveR]

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With the National Championships looming on the horizon, who will leave Ponds Forge in Sheffield with the coverted title?

Click here (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13411)for the full list of entrants.

The top seeds and draw for each category are as follows:

U21 Women
1 Kelly Sibley
2 Joanna Parker
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13415)

U21 Men
1 Paul Drinkhall
2 Darius Knight
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13404)

Vet Men
1 Abdul Wuraola
2 Joe Kennedy
Draw
(http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13412)
Vet Men's Doubles
1 Abdul Wuraola/ Jimmy Walsh
2 Joe Kennedy/Clive Carthy
Draw
(http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13408)
Men's Singles
1 Paul Drinkhall
2 Andrew Rushton
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13405)

Men's Doubles
1 Paul Drinkhall/Darius Knight
2 Andrew Rushton/Tim Yarnall
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13414)

Women's Singles
1 Kelly Sibley
2 Joanna Parker
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13410)

Women's Doubles
1 Kelly Sibley/Joanna Parker
2 Lindsey Reynolds/Abigail Embling
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13406)

Mixed Doubles
1 Paul Drinkhall/Joanna Parker
2 Darius Knight/Kelly Sibley
Draw (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13409)

There will also be a disabled event going on during the weekend, for the draw click here (http://www.sportfocus.com/reguser/dynabizinfo/download.cfm?number=13413).

If your not already taking part in the event why not go along and watch?

The Venue:
Ponds Forge International Sports Centre
Sheaf Street
Sheffield
S1 2BP


COURTESY ETTA

[DaveR]

So that you don't miss any of the action in Sheffield, below is a schedule of play split into days and categories.

Friday
U21 Men’s Singles
Rd1 16:30
Quarter Finals 17:30
Semi Finals 18:30
Final 19:30

Veteran Men’s Doubles
Preliminary Rd 16:30
Quarter Finals 17:00
Semi Finals 18:30
Final 19:30

Veteran Men’s Singles
Rd1 17:30
Quarter Finals 18:00
Semi Finals 19:00
Finals 20:00

U21 Women’s Singles
Quarter Finals 18:00
Semi Finals 19:00
Final 20:00

Saturday
Mixed Doubles
Rd1 9:00
Rd2 9:30
Quarter Finals 10:00
Semi Finals 14:00
Finals 15:15

Men’s Doubles
Preliminary Rd 12:30
Rd1 12:30
Rd2 17:30
Quarter Finals 18:45

Women’s Doubles
Preliminary Rd 14:00
Quarter Finals 17:30
Semi Finals 11:15
Final 14:00

Men's Singles
Preliminary Rd 14:30
Rd1 16:30
Rd2 18:00

Women’s Singles
Preliminary Rd 15:15
Rd1 16:00

Disabled Singles/Men’s Standing
Semi Finals 15:15

Sunday
Men’s Singles
Quarter Finals 10:30
Semi Finals 12:15
Finals 16:45

Disabled Singles/Women’s Wheelchair Singles
Finals 11:45

Men’s Doubles
Semi Finals 11:15
Finals 14:35
Disabled Singles/Men’s Standing
Finals 15:10

Women’s Singles
Quarter Finals 9:45
Semi Finals 12:15
Finals 16:00

[DaveR]

The first day of the tournament saw a battle of youth and experience as the Veterans and Under 21's fought for their respective titles.

U21 Mens
Darius makes it a hatrick with his third consecutive Under 21’s title defeating Paul Drinkhall.
The game started off with Paul being as consistent as ever and Darius having flashes of brilliance interspersed with some fumbles. Darius game grew ever more consistent until Paul was feeling the pressure, with a mid game resurgence Paul tried to get back the title that has evaded him, but it wasn’t enough to stop Darius who was on a role.
(3) Darius Knight bt. (1) Paul Drinkhall 7-11, 11-9, 9-11, 11-9, 11-8
On route to the final:
Quarter Finals
(1) Paul Drinkhall bt. (15) Damien Nicholls 12-10, 11-3, 11-8.
(5) Gavin Evans bt. (24) Mathew Ware 11-8, 11-13, 11-9, 12-14, 11-8
(6) Daniel Reed bt. (40) Liam Pitchford 11-9, 11-9, 12-10
(3) Darius Knight bt (7) Tim Yarnall 11-8, 11-6, 11-8

Semi Finals
(1) Paul Drinkhall bt. (5) Gavin Evans
(3) Darius Knight bt. (6) Daniel Reed 11-9, 8-11, 5-11, 11-5, 11-6

U21 Womens
In a classic game of defence versus attack it was Kelly’s attacking style that won out in the end after a fight back in round 2 by Joanna.

(201) Kelly Sibley bt. (202) Joanna Parker 11-2, 3-11, 11-6, 11-2

Quarter Finals
(201) Kelly Sibley bt. (215) Emily Bates 11-3, 11-8, 11-5
(211) Melanie Farquhar bt. (204) Abigail Embling 12-10, 6-11, 9-11, 11-6, 11-5
(211) Sarra Wang bt. (218) Reena Ardeshana 5-11, 11-4, 11-6, 11-1
(202) Joanna Parker bt (213) Hannah Hicks 11-4, 11-2, 11-4

Semi Finals
(201) Kelly Sibley bt. (211) Melanie Farquhar 11-3, 13-11, 12-10
(202) Joanna Parker bt (211) Sarra Wang 11-6, 11-8, 11-7

Veteran Men’s
A new champion was crowned in the Veteran men’s this year, in a final that saw a battle of the top two seeds, with Abdul winning it in the end after dropping the first set.

(18) Abdul Wuraola bt. (17) Eddie Smith 6-11, 11-5, 12-10, 11-8

Quarter Finals
(18) Abdul Wuraola bt. (51) Dave Godbold) 11-8, 11-9, 11-6
(30) Jimmy Walsh bt. (22) Nigel Eckersley 11-7, 11-13, 4-11, 11-9, 11-8
(17) Eddie Smith bt. (47) Jerome Jonah 11-7, 11-7, 7-11, 11-3
(32) Joe Kennedy bt. (29) Dave Harvey 6-11, 12-10, 11-4, 10-12, 11-7

Semi Finals
(18) Abdul Wuraola bt. (30) Jimmy Walsh 11-4, 6-11, 11-4, 11-9
(17) Eddie Smith bt. (32) Joe Kennedy 11-8, 11-5, 11-8

Veteran Men’s Doubles
In a repeat of last years final it was the 2007 runners up that stepped it up to take the title.

(17) Eddie Smith/(51) Dave Godbold bt. (32) Joe Kennedy/(34) Clive Carthy 10-12, 11-7, 11-6, 11-9

Quarter Finals
(75) Andrew Frain/ (78) David Fraser bt. (18) Abdul Wurola/ (30) Jimmy Walsh) 8-11, 11-9, 11-5, 11-6
(17) Eddie Smith/(51) Dave Godbold bt. (77) J Gittens/(111) David Ayinde 11-9, 11-7, 11-6
(50) Trevor Kerry/(59) Diccon Gray bt. (79) S Crosby/(80) Steve Lyons 11-8, 11-4, 11-4
(32) Joe Kennedy/(34) Clive Carthy bt. (62) John Dennison/(65) Martin Smith 11-6, 11-7, 11-6

Semi Finals
(17) Eddie Smith/(51) Dave Godbold bt. (75) Andrew Frain/ (78) David Fraser 11-13, 11-7, 11-3, 11-6
(32) Joe Kennedy/(34) Clive Carthy bt. (50) Trevor Kerry/(59) Diccon Gray 11-9, 10-12, 11-3, 11-6


Live Results............... HERE (http://www.etta.co.uk/NatChamps/SeniorNats/2007-8/)

[Mr Wilko]

well done harry and ed for there victory in the doubles even with two dodgy knee's he still carries ed to victory!!!!! but was not able to help ed take singles title when he had the chance !!!!!

WELL DONE LADS!!!!!!

:static::static::static::static::static::static::s tatic::static::static::static::static::static:

[DaveR]

Top story lads and well done...............party for the lads !

[Hovis Bread Eater]

The lads did well with a bit of good advice from the corner, No partying for them afterwards, walking without pain or moaning was the main idea.

[Mr Wilko]

lets guess godbold was one walking in pain and ed would of been moaning about getting the round in???

[Robstar]

harry the tin ( Edward ) must have turned to Steel to enable u 2 produce gold in Sheffield well done great result Robstar

[DaveR]

Mixed Doubles...........

Rd1
With 8 byes in the first, round you would be mistaken to think that there wasn’t any room for upsets, well three pairings ousted higher ranked opponents.
(54) M Evans/(215) E Bates bt. (16) S Marples/(238) C Graham 11-9, 1-9, 7-11, 11-5
(26) C Lewis/(239) G Ashton bt. (87) T Surrey/(231) C Whyte 11-5, 11-5, 11-7
(76) D Lowe/(227) M Fuller bt. (15) D Nicholls/(232) C Airey 11-6, 11-7, 11-6

Rd2
There were no major upsets in round 2 with the higher ranked pairings in each match going through, but with three games going to 5 sets the battles were intense.


Quarter Finals.......

Again it was domination by the top seeds, with Meads and Farquhar being the closest to cause an upset stretching out their games to 16-14, 15-13 and then 11-6.
(1) P Drinkhall/(202) J Parker bt. (28) S Noutch/(205) J Roberts 11-9, 11-3, 11-3
(6) D Reed/(208) C Hallows bt. (10) M Marsden/(204) A Embling 11-9, 11-7, 11-6
(5) G Evans/(203) L Reynolds bt.(8) D Meads/(211) M Farquhar 16-14, 15-13, 11-6
(3) D Knight/(201) K Sibley bt. (11) B Evans/(207) S Wang 11-8, 11-6, 11-8

[Mr Wilko]

who was no2 seed in under 21 mens singles ??

[Hovis Bread Eater]

darius Knight

[Mr Wilko]

so who is number 2 in mens singles??

[Hovis Bread Eater]

Andrew Rushton

[Mr Wilko]

mmm forgot about him!!!! are marsden or meads still in the singles??

[DaveR]

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Without a shadow of doubt this was game of the tournament (so far), it had everything and more. With one of the favourites, starting in ruthless fashion the result everyone expected looked inevitable; however, Ware had other ideas. Quickly two down, he revised his game plan and with devastating fashion pushed Rushton to his limits.

The increasing onlookers became torn between two magical displays, as on the other table Liam Pitchford was busy writing his own story, defeating Tim Yarnall in five. Once complete the focus switched firmly to Rushton and Ware and every eye in the hall became engrossed by the brilliant table tennis.

Ware surged in the third and fourth looking increasingly confident as he created a level playing field pulling the score back to 2-2. As you would expect the game tightened up in the fifth, but with nothing to lose Ware pressurised Rushton with some fantastic cross-court forehands nicking the game 12-10 and edging 3-2 ahead. There was also a great sportsmanship shown by Ware in this game as he acknowledged an oversight and reversed the umpires decision making sure Rushton was correctly attributed a point.
Game six went to the wire and if Ware could just hold his service, he would progress to the quarter-final. At deuce, three match points slipped away and the tension become unbearable. Finally, Ware converted 16-14 and the crowd erupted in appreciation of his superb efforts.

(24) Mathew Ware bt. (2) Andrew Rushton 0-11, 11-13, 11-5, 11-6, 12-10, 16-14

Courtesy of ETTA

[MK Chris]

Hmm, Andrew (Baggaley) could find himself with a slightly easier route to the final than he expected. Could be a tough match against Danny Reed, but if he despatches him, he's got to beat either Ben Barlow or Matthew Ware.. I know Matthew had a cracking match in the previous round, but I still think Andrew would take him over Rushton.

Drinkhall still for the title, though.

[DaveR]

The next day and yes lots of games to view but would there be any strange results. Here's how the players progressed to reach this afternoons finals. Here's how the players progressed to reach this afternoons finals.

Men’s Singles
Quarter Finals
There was potential for upsets in every match with Liam, Danny and Gavin playing well and Mat on a high from an amazing performance yesterday. The two matches that stretched out to 6 sets were thanks to yesterday’s top performers, Liam and Mat.
Darius was making Liam work for everything, forcing Liam to move all round the court to return his powerful shots, although Liam unleashing some powerful hits himself he was still only working a small area of the table. 4-2 to Darius.
The passion and determination was clear to everyone to see and hear as the vocal Mat Ware gave it his all against Ben Barlow. After winning the second, narrowly losing the third and winning the fourth, would Mat be able to continue his run of form? The answer however was no, Ben upped his game and took the fifth convincingly before wrapping it up in the sixth set.
(1) Paul Drinkhall bt (5) Gavin Evans 11-2, 9-11, 11-5, 13-11, 11-3
(3) Darius Knight bt. Liam Pitchford 11-9, 9-11, 11-8, 10-12, 11-6, 11-5
(4) Andrew Baggaley bt. (6) Daniel Reed 3-11, 11-6, 11-7, 11-9, 11-5
(19) Ben Barlow bt. (24) Mathew Ware 11-5, 9-11, 12-10, 9-11, 11-5, 11-8

Semi Finals
With so many titles between them, surely this game would surely produce the eventual.
Set 1 saw both players swapping points, neither looking dominant, eventually Paul took it 16-14.
Set 2 saw a good start from Darius going 5-0 up and then all of a sudden the score was 5-5, had he lost his composure? Back to swapping points, this time Darius takes it 12-10
Set 3 wasn’t as close, although you couldn’t discount Darius.
Set 4, at 10-6 up is looked like it was Darius’s set to dominate, Paul brought it back to 11-10 before taking the set 14-12 and the game.
(1) Paul Drinkhall bt. (3) Darius Knight 11-4, 16-14, 10-12, 11-4, 14-12
(4) Andrew Baggaley bt. (19) Ben Barlow 11-7, 11-4, 7-11, 11-6, 11-8

Women’s Singles
Quarter Finals
Top seeds Kelly Sibley and Joanna Parker both got through with convincing wins in four straight sets. Sarra Wang and Sarah Perks disposing of higher ranked opponents to secure their places in the semis.
(201) Kelly Sibley bt. (227) Mary Fuller 11-5, 11-7, 11-2, 11-4
(216) Sarah Perks bt. Joanna Roberts 11-4, 6-11, 11-7, 11-8, 11-5
(207) Sarra Wang bt. (203) Lindsey Reynolds 12-10, 6-11, 8-11, 13-11, 11-4, 11-3
(202) Joanna Parker bt. (206) Karen Shepherd 11-5, 11-2, 11-7, 11-2
Semi Finals
The form book remains intact, as Kelly and Joanna meet in the final after both getting another 4 set win.
(201) Kelly Sibley bt. (216) Sarah Perks 11-8, 11-5, 11-8, 11-8
(202) Joanna Parker bt. (207) Sarra Wang 11-6, 11-4, 11-7, 11-7

Men’s Doubles
Semi Finals
The semis were a quick affair with the favourites in each game winning in 3 straight sets.
(1) P Drinkhall/(3) D Knight bt. (19) B Barlow/(26) C Lewis 11-8, 11-6, 11-7
(2) A Rushton/(7) T Yarnall bt. (43) D Macbeath/(74) K Daybell 11-3, 11-3, 11-8

[DaveR]

Women’s Doubles Final
The women’s doubles final saw the top four seeds of the tournament team up.

After a shock defeat in the first round of the singles by Sarah Perks (ranked 16th), Abigail was really pulling out the stops to try and redeem herself.
There were a few forced errors for Kelly and Jo, but the third and fourth ranked players rarely managed to capitalise on them. The speed and movement of the top seeds shone through and showed just why they have been performing so well on the international scene recently, winning the game in three straight sets.
(201) K Sibley/(202) J Parker bt. (203) L Reynolds/(204) A Embling 11-6, 11-8, 11-8

Men’s Doubles Final
Paul Drinkhall and Darius Knight v Tim Yarnall and Andrew Rushton
With both Rushton and Yarnall keen to avenge their early exits from the men’s singles the men’s doubles final looked to be a tight affair. Drinkhall and Knight had their work cut out from the beginning to retain their title. The game stared in frantic fashion as the number one seeds shot into a 3-0 lead, this continued onto an 11-7 first end. The next end was a carbon copy of the first as the current holders began to assert their authority over the opposition.

Following their timeout in the third, Rushton and Yarnall commenced a fight back. However, this was short lived and they eventually succumbed to a powerful display from their opponents.
(3) Darius Knight /(1) Paul Drinkhall bt. (7)Tim Yarnall/(2)Andrew Rushton 11-7, 11-7, 14-12

[DaveR]

Men’s Finals...........

It was final worthy of viewing with 2002 winner Andrew Baggaley (Bucks) against the current champion Paul Drinkhall (Cleveland).
As with Pauls match against Darius, this promised to be a close and exciting game with both players being fast paced attackers at a similar level, but can Baggaley capitalise on his experience.

Baggaley who plays his game in Spain lost the first point, but it looked pretty even from then on, with Paul taking it 11-7.
12-10, the second set went to Baggaley, although Drinkhall came across as more composed, it was his consistency that has been such a strong point of his came appeared to wane towards the end of the set.

The third set saw them both prove that they weren’t just heavy hitters, although the play was predominantly getting further and further from the table, this was interspersed with some close tactical play. Baggaley takes the third in what is proving to be a close game.

Will the fact that Paul has competed for four titles and reaching the final for all them be his undoing, as this is Andrew Baggaley’s only event.
The beginning of the fourth set saw the ball hitting the white line more than any other part of the table.

Baggaley’s strength and relentless pressure secured him his third consecutive set.

After going 10-3 down it looked as though Paul’s day was done, Andrew Baggaley’s momentum was unstoppable, Paul tried a late comeback bringing it to 10-6 before hitting it long to give his title away.

(5) Andrew Baggaley bt (1) Paul Drinkhall 7-11, 12-10, 12-10, 11-4, 11-6

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Women’s Finals..........
Kelly Sibley v Joanna Parker
Women’s final was a repeat of the U21’s and following her defeat Joanna Parker looked keen to reverse Fridays result.



Kelly Sibley, last year’s runner up, looked assured as she dominated the early stages with a confident and positive performance. However, Parkers elegant playing style brought her back in contention as she varied defence with an impressive forehand attack, something that has been lacking in recent years.

The crowd really appreciated this classic table tennis encounter as both players revelled in the atmosphere pushing each other to the very limits of their ability. With barely two points to separate them throughout the second game, Parker edged it 11-8, following a mistake by Sibley who smashed a high return into the bottom of the net.

Back level pegging the third end seemed to favour the number one seed as she dismantled Parkers defence 11-4. Sibley perhaps the mentally tougher of the two, was aided in the fourth by a fortunate clip of the net that killed the ball dead, and with this went Parkers focus, as Sibley moved into a 3-1 lead.

In the fifth, Sibley appeared to relax and bide her time waiting for the moment to attack. In a desperate attempt to halt her opponents progress, Parker called a timeout at 5-9. This just delayed the inevitable as Sibley went on to gain her first Senior National title and her third of the weekend.

(1) Kelly Sibley bt. Joanna Parker (2) 11-9, 8-11, 11-4, 11-2


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Disabled Singles/Women’s Wheelchair Singles Finals.........

(240) Leanne Stephens bt. (241) Hannah Coulthurst 11-7, 11-8, 6-11, 5-11, 12-10

Disabled Singles/Men’s Standing Finals

(74) Kim Daybell bt. (99) Farrell Anthony 11-6, 11-7, 16-14

Courtesy ETTA Report

[Jose]

Correction to the ETTA report - of course Andrew Baggaley does not come from Cleveland. It could have been considered an all Cleveland final if Danny Reed had defeated Andrew Baggaley, but he lost in one semi final to Baggaley as Paul Drinkhall was defeating Darius Knight in a close match in the other semi final. Andrew Baggaley is from Milton Keynes and, therefore, from Bucks.

Thanks for the note about Matthew Ware's sporting gesture above. He was awarded the Swaythling Club International Fair Play Award at the presentations in Sheffield and it must have been for that fair play gesture.

[Mr Wilko]

didnt expect drinkall to loose to Baggaley!!! he must of run out of steam.

good weekend though for Drinkall entered 4 events and played in all 4 finals well done to Paul!!!

[MK Chris]

Drinkhall still for the title, though.
I stand corrected!

Correction to the ETTA report - of course Andrew Baggaley does not come from Cleveland. It could have been considered an all Cleveland final if Danny Reed had defeated Andrew Baggaley, but he lost in one semi final to Baggaley as Paul Drinkhall was defeating Darius Knight in a close match in the other semi final. Andrew Baggaley is from Milton Keynes and, therefore, from Bucks.
I was about to mention that, too..!

That's a cracking win for Andrew, he must be made up! :thumbsup:

[Tinykin]

Mathew probably got the award for his gesture during his match against Bradley Evans. In this match Bradley hit a high ball winner just as another came into the court. The umpire called a let but Matt insisted that it was Bradley's point, folded his arms and refused to continue until the umpire gave Bradley the point.

[DaveR]

Thanks for that Jose and adjusted report accordingly, as you will see the logistical error corrected!

[DaveR]

Mathew probably got the award for his gesture during his match against Bradley Evans. In this match Bradley hit a high ball winner just as another came into the court. The umpire called a let but Matt insisted that it was Bradley's point, folded his arms and refused to continue until the umpire gave Bradley the point.

Thanks for that Tinykin, all information such as that is most welcome.

Cheers Dave

[HarryBelafonte]

:blow:why does baggely not play for england?

Any one else think he resembles wilko?:tomato:

[DaveR]

Not sure Harry but judging the way he played over the weekend im amazed he isnt...........


By the way lets say well done to HARRY who won the mens VETTS doubles with Eddie Smith, great achievement!

Congrats !

[Annie]

:clap:Well done Harry and Eddie :england:

[Hovis Bread Eater]

:blow:why does baggely not play for england?

Any one else think he resembles wilko?:tomato:

Why has Andrew got curly short hair and blonde highlights

[MK Chris]

:blow:why does baggely not play for england?

Not sure Harry but judging the way he played over the weekend im amazed he isnt...........
I can't offer a definitive answer, but I believe it's very political. I think the ETTA don't like the fact that he never enters Grands Prix and equally the Baggaleys feel the ETTA have something against them, but it's not something that I know too much about.

He, of course, has played for England previously (notably in the Commonwealths). The same could be said for Alex Perry though.. at Commonwealths in Melbourne, he wasn't in the England team, despite being National Champion.

[Mr Wilko]

yes it is something to do with the above from MK Chris i also think it has something to do with his family? falling out between them and ETTA.

Just to put Hovis straight i have not got curly short hair or blonde highlights you must be loosing your marbles now that you are nearing that age of 40+ like Ed and Hovis they keep thinking they have been to the bar when really it was just the tiolet !!!!!!


:thtease::thtease::thtease::thtease:

[Hovis Bread Eater]

well if u look similar to Mr Baggerely then u will have to have highlights,

[Mr Wilko]

well if you call going grey being highlights then maybe i have!!!!! ha ha

must be the family life im living these days!!!!

[Powerhouse]

Well done to Andrew Baggaley, great win proving all is possible with hard work and commitment.

[MK Chris]

i also think it has something to do with his family? falling out between them and ETTA.
Something like that, I'm not certain what though.

[Tinykin]

Can't we do like the Red Tops and say something controversial thus ensuring a clarification?

[DaveR]

I love a bit of contraversy!

[MK Chris]

Can't we do like the Red Tops and say something controversial thus ensuring a clarification?
Because I don't know the situation.. in fact, I think the only people who do are the Baggaleys and the ETTA (which, incidentally, I find very amusing when a certain member of our league committee says Etta, as though it weren't an acronym, thus pronouncing our national governing body's name like the Spanish terror group.)

[Hovis Bread Eater]

ill say something controversial, Douglas Barder had better footwork than Dave Godbold.

[Mr Wilko]

Something like that, I'm not certain what though.


i think it stems back to a few years ago.......... im sure it is something to do with his brother coaching him but would not put my life on it!!!!!!!

:rocker: http://tabletennistalk.co.uk/forum/images/icons/ETTA.gif :rocker:

[Hovis Bread Eater]

As far as i know the players had to participate in a number of national events to be considered to be selected for England. Andrew did not fulfil this criteria.

[Tinykin]

Because I don't know the situation.. in fact, I think the only people who do are the Baggaleys and the ETTA (which, incidentally, I find very amusing when a certain member of our league committee says Etta, as though it weren't an acronym, thus pronouncing our national governing body's name like the Spanish terror group.)

I don't mean to tell the truth. That's why I mentioned the Red Tops. Make up something close based on the rumours.:secret2: That should get someone on here to explain what really happened.:whistling:

[Mr Wilko]

hovis is correvt but it stemmed from his brother stopping him as he was his mentor/coach!!!! so there you go tinykin!!!!!!

[MK Chris]

I don't mean to tell the truth. That's why I mentioned the Red Tops. Make up something close based on the rumours.:secret2: That should get someone on here to explain what really happened.:whistling:
Oh right. Well, in that case, the ETTA are a corrupt bunch of mafia-backed conmen who put their the backing into people who have shorter hair than Andrew... and I'm rubbish at making things up.

I've been talking about this tonight (with someone who is neither pro, nor anti-Baggaley.. in fact he says neither party is totally blameless). H'apparently, you are correct in what you are saying. I believe the ETTA offered Stephen (his brother) some sort of grant or coaching job, but it wasn't enough to live on, so they couldn't accept.. basically, the Baggaleys' money comes from table tennis; Stephen's coaching and Andrew's playing.

Andrew playing abroad means that he doesn't have time to enter Grands Prix and such like, which the ETTA don't like at all. This means he doesn't get picked for things like the England team, etc, very often.

I think Andrew winning is basically a kick in the teeth for the establishment, who have put all their eggs in one basket with Paul and Darius; they've spent millions on them.

[Mr Wilko]

as above from MK Chris- it has been like that for years like i have said in other topics i wasnot picked when no1 junior for England and M James from yorkshire was not picked neither and he was no3 as we were both from the North and they were flying from heathrow and it would of cost them more money to get us there they picked all southerners, it will always be like that!! if you are in the right place or your face fits then champion you play even if not ranked in top 10

[HarryBelafonte]

its all about potential....:covereyes:

[Hovis Bread Eater]

Best hang up your bat then Belafonte....

[TS]

as above from MK Chris- it has been like that for years like i have said in other topics i wasnot picked when no1 junior for England and M James from yorkshire was not picked neither and he was no3 as we were both from the North and they were flying from heathrow and it would of cost them more money to get us there they picked all southerners, it will always be like that!! if you are in the right place or your face fits then champion you play even if not ranked in top 10



Same sort of thing happened to me Wilko as u probably know. Essomba was picked over me even tho he d played for camaroon and was ranked lower than me. I blame u Wilko for giving us northerners a bad name!

[Hovis Bread Eater]

Darren Howarth from Mancheste was ranked No. 3 behind Alex Perry and Edward Hately all season and never got picked top play for England at the Europeans.

He was from Manchester and probably set the trend for the other Northerners not selected.

[MK Chris]

as above from MK Chris- it has been like that for years like i have said in other topics i wasnot picked when no1 junior for England and M James from yorkshire was not picked neither and he was no3 as we were both from the North and they were flying from heathrow and it would of cost them more money to get us there they picked all southerners, it will always be like that!! if you are in the right place or your face fits then champion you play even if not ranked in top 10
Incidentally, though, Andrew is from Milton Keynes and he hasn't often been picked when he arguably should have been.

Some situations are very political and shouldn't be.

[HarryBelafonte]

:woho:but potential is the main thing,shlager was not a top ranked junior but went on to be world champ//:thtease:

[Mr Wilko]

yeah TS i remember and its all wrong but i got my revenge beating them all in nationl tournaments likie wise did M James.
They should pick top players 1/2/3/4 or scrap ranking list!!! what is the point in it if they dont pick no1's etc

[HarryBelafonte]

potential:happy:

[Mr Wilko]

but etta go on polotics??????????

[HarryBelafonte]

:tomato:is it political or just subjective as the top ranked players are not always the best players.. :dance3:

[Mr Wilko]

whoa bellafonte that is a low blow???? i beat every junior when was no1!!!!!!

[HarryBelafonte]

In general mr wilko...:static:

[Mr Wilko]

In general mr wilko...:static:


in general the ETTA have there favourites no matter if you are NO1 or NO11 they pick who they want and always will !!!!!! :tomato::tomato:

[Mr Wilko]

Cheers for getting my name right at last!!!!

[HarryBelafonte]

We all have favourites.:thumbsup: wathching the lads on motd

[Mr Wilko]

We all have favourites.:thumbsup: wathching the lads on motd


true thats why i am watching the entertainers hammer reading on football first !!!!!


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