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Annie
04-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Know Your Limits

If you stretch properly before and after a session, you will decrease your chances of serious injury and avoid soreness and pain. This is where knowing your limits come into play. Stretching is not an activity meant to cause pain: Its whole purpose is to avoid pain. When you stretch, you might feel a little discomfort or mild tension as you work out some of the stiffness, but if you feel any pain beyond that, you have gone too far. Here’s why:

When you stretch the muscles and tendons to the point of pain, the body employs a defense mechanism called the stretch reflex. This is the body's safety measure to prevent serious damage from occurring to the muscles and tendons. The stretch reflex protects the muscles and tendons by contracting them, thereby preventing them from being stretched beyond their limits. If you try to force your body beyond this fail-safe point, you run the risk damaging muscle tissues, tendons or ligaments.

http://www.thestretchinghandbook.com/images/stretch_reflex.jpg

The diagram above shows how nerve impulses triggered by the
stretch reflex travel between the spinal colum and the muscles.

What to Avoid When Stretching

Many people have never learnt how to stretch properly. Maybe you have done this yourself: You watch other people stretching in the gym and try to imitate what you see. But who is to say that the person you are watching is doing it right? Here are some of the most common mistakes made while stretching:

Bouncing. Many people have the mistaken impression that they should bounce to get a good stretch. Bouncing will not help you and could do more damage as you try to push too far beyond the stretch reflex. Every move you make should be smooth and gentle. Lean into the stretch gradually, push to the point of mild tension and hold for a few seconds. Each time you will be able to go a little further, but do not force it.
Not Holding the Stretch Long Enough. If you do not hold the stretch long enough, you may fall into the habit of bouncing or rushing through your stretch workout. Hold your stretch position for at least 15 to 20 seconds before moving back to your original position.
Stretching Too Hard. Stretching takes patience and finesse. Each move needs to be fluid and gentle. Do not throw your body into a stretch or try to rush through your stretching routine. Take your time and relax.
Forgetting Form and Function. Think about your sport or activity. Which muscles will you be using? A stretching routine for a marathon run will be very different from a routine for an hour of lifting weights. Pay attention to the muscles you will need to use in your program and make sure your form for each stretch is attained properly. Consider the range of motion you will be putting that particular muscle through. The whole point of stretching is getting your muscles accustomed to moving through a specific range of motion, so if the muscle is not used to going that far, you may end up with an injury.
So, to avoid the stretch reflex and potential damage to your muscles and joints, avoid pain. Never push yourself beyond what is comfortable. Only stretch to the point where you can feel tension in your muscles. This way, you will avoid injury and get the maximum benefits from your stretching.

Stretching is one of the most underutilized techniques for improving athletic performance, preventing sports injury and properly rehabilitating soft tissue injuries. Do not make the mistake of thinking that something as simple as stretching will not be effective. Take your time with your stretching routine, and later on you will be grateful you did.

Annie
04-23-2008, 08:51 PM
So what is everyone waiting for? Start stretching before EVERY game! It's not like we're expecting you to do the impossible.............YET!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/hungarianwonderwoman/TTT/stretch.gif

MK Chris
04-23-2008, 10:18 PM
Ahem.. I know this is a serious thread and everything but I was reminded of a certain Harry Enfield sketch when I read the topic title.

Women! Know your limits.

I'll resist the urge to search on Youtube and post it, mainly because I'm lazy and can't be arsed but also because you may shout.

Annie
04-23-2008, 10:29 PM
Chris I don't shout. :resent: Interactive humour is always welcome just as long as you don't get carried away and return to the subject within a copule of posts.

Now don't be lazy and find that sketch :thumbsup:

MK Chris
04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8injvP1lJ8I

There ya go...

NativeNewYorker
04-24-2008, 12:24 PM
The whole warm up concept in Table Tennis is forgotten about at local level, which is probably where its needed most with those being the unfittest to take part in the sport or any sport!

There is a need to "limber" up sensibly with stretching and loosening up of the moving parts essential if muscle damage is to be avoided especially if the player or players is slightly older or less fit. Use these carefully you maybe suprised the results that can be achieved by some general warm up before matches.

Moggy
04-24-2008, 01:35 PM
... loosening up of the moving parts essential if muscle damage is to be avoided especially if the player or players is slightly older or less fit. ....

It's strange that you actually have to damage muscle to improve its tone/strength. The trick is not to exceed a certain limit, but it can be difficult to know exactly where that point is - until you exceed it:resent:.
Once you're warmed up, playing so you feel sore the next day is one way to improve your fitness - as they used to say 'No pain - No gain'.

Annie
04-24-2008, 10:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8injvP1lJ8I

There ya go...

Here's a stretching especially for you!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/hungarianwonderwoman/TTT/rack.jpg

Annie
04-24-2008, 10:55 PM
The whole warm up concept in Table Tennis is forgotten about at local level, which is probably where its needed most with those being the unfittest to take part in the sport or any sport!

There is a need to "limber" up sensibly with stretching and loosening up of the moving parts essential if muscle damage is to be avoided especially if the player or players is slightly older or less fit. Use these carefully you maybe suprised the results that can be achieved by some general warm up before matches.

It's strange that you actually have to damage muscle to improve its tone/strength. The trick is not to exceed a certain limit, but it can be difficult to know exactly where that point is - until you exceed it:resent:.
Once you're warmed up, playing so you feel sore the next day is one way to improve your fitness - as they used to say 'No pain - No gain'.

Yes the older we get the less subtle we become so stretching before playing is even more important.

The Windmill
04-25-2008, 08:13 AM
Yes the older we get the less subtle we become so stretching before playing is even more important.

Annie, do you mean supple ? Ha Ha

Annie
04-25-2008, 08:29 AM
Annie, do you mean supple ? Ha Ha


Errrrm! Thanks for pointing that out Windmill...................and yes...........I'm human! :tomato:








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The Windmill
04-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Errrrm! Thanks for pointing that out Windmill...................and yes...........I'm human! :tomato:








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Perhaps I should have been more subtle or is it supple with my lesson in the use of the english language......he says rapidly digging own grave

Annie
04-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Perhaps I should have been more subtle or is it supple with my lesson in the use of the english language......he says rapidly digging own grave

**Hands him a shovel**

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/hungarianwonderwoman/TTT/shovel.jpg

Boneman
05-21-2008, 09:42 AM
Just to throw in here.... perhaps some have read my post(s) pursuant to my dubiously painful feet.... and the entire sheath of tendons that goes from the plantar fascia to the ball of the foot...

It's one of those injuries... once you feel the pain, you're far and away beyond the point you should have gone. And tendons can be very slow and difficult to heal to say the least. Particularly if you continue to re-injure them.

Interestingly enough as a younger fellow stretching? Never saw the point in it and never even considered taking part.

Paying the price now for certain but having attained a level of self-edification pursuant to "The grim agony of de feet" I wish I could retro-stretch the doggone things.

So thanks for the subtle hints as to how to augment the supple nature of the tendons.

;-))

Annie
05-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Just to throw in here.... perhaps some have read my post(s) pursuant to my dubiously painful feet.... and the entire sheath of tendons that goes from the plantar fascia to the ball of the foot...

It's one of those injuries... once you feel the pain, you're far and away beyond the point you should have gone. And tendons can be very slow and difficult to heal to say the least. Particularly if you continue to re-injure them.

Interestingly enough as a younger fellow stretching? Never saw the point in it and never even considered taking part.

Paying the price now for certain but having attained a level of self-edification pursuant to "The grim agony of de feet" I wish I could retro-stretch the doggone things.

So thanks for the subtle hints as to how to augment the supple nature of the tendons.

;-))

Well I think that's very big of you to own up to past failings. Many of the points I try to make in the Health and Wellbeing section are born from my own short comings of both past and present. I'm sure we are all aware of what's the right thing to do but get taken over by 'The Rush' of real life so a gentle reminder or nudge will do us all good.

Since recently being diagnosed Diabetic I have decided not to take drugs but to take control of my health in a preventative way. I think we all know what we're doing wrong. :resent:

Admitting to our failings instead of denying them is the first step toward making changes. If anyone feels they want to come out then this is definitely the section to do it in. :thumbsup:

:bag:Come on......you know you want to!

Boneman
05-22-2008, 12:17 AM
Spot on Annie... Denial is NOT... a river in Egypt. Meanwhile... and I'm not only touching wood... I'm firmly pressing as many square inches of my sad, sorry self on to wood as I can...

I've stumbled across something that is working (dare I say it???).... Firstly I procured one of those bubbling foot spa units.... tickles a bit at first... but it's great. Secondly... STRETCHING... and pursuant to the parameters outlined here (I was a bouncer... D'oh!) it's a whole other deal Thirdly.... A product named the 2 Ounce Miracle.... which is a heat activated "memory" foam orthotic insert..

Played three rounds of doubles after first stretching and a long warm up... WITH the inserts in the shoes....

I'm not entirely pain free... but the difference is beyond amazing. Seriously.... I'm afraid to even bring it up in fear of jinxing it.... ;-)

Here's a linkie fer the product...

http://www.profootcare.com

It's an U.S. outfit... made in Taiwan... so I would hope they're available worldwide. I'm off to procure a few more sets... and they're relatively inexpensive too... $7.99 US at the local druggist...

I'll post back pursuant to any progress good bad or none... this is day one with this process... but it's the best I've felt in WEEKS I say!

Annie
05-22-2008, 07:13 AM
Excellent tip and thanks for sharing, I'm sure others are going to benefit from this information. :thumbsup:

I like you, you've got a good sense of humour! :fcb:

Boneman
05-22-2008, 11:59 PM
Thanks Annie... Hey... if it weren't for my sense of humour... methinks I would have been bonkers ages ago... but then... if one is bonkers... is one aware of it? Gee... if not, I could be bonkers... RIGHT NOW....:taz: and have not a clue as to my being as such....


:pray:


UPDATE on the orthotic inserts aforementioned. THEY ARE WORKING.

For now... that's all I dare say!

Annie
05-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Thanks Annie... Hey... if it weren't for my sense of humour... methinks I would have been bonkers ages ago... but then... if one is bonkers... is one aware of it? Gee... if not, I could be bonkers... RIGHT NOW....:taz: and have not a clue as to my being as such....


:pray:


UPDATE on the orthotic inserts aforementioned. THEY ARE WORKING.

For now... that's all I dare say!

Wishing you well on this :pray:

HarryBelafonte
05-23-2008, 09:05 PM
Nice one larry,me owld china plate,,you got your insoles for £4.00, refer to my previous thread somewhere else,rip off britain, I paid a tenner,glad to see there working ,,no charge for the advice......:fcb:

MickM
05-24-2008, 12:49 AM
Hey Harry i paid about 12 quid for some insoles for my slightly tender feet and i read Bonemans post, uk rip off !

Boneman
05-24-2008, 10:45 AM
Harry & Mick... not to worry... I also own other inserts that range in price up to $25 US... and oddly enough... they're not as effective. I stopped off at the place of purveyance yesterday and absconded with their remaining stock... I've a few pair of shoes to fill!

2oz. Miracle.... indeed!