i need help with penholder style

[Mehdi]

im from iran and i play in penholder style but i have troubles with it because nobody can help me in iran because nobody plays this style
can any body help me?

[DaveR]

Playing against styles...........


Counterattackers are most comfortable with light spin. If the opponent lacks good footwork, work the middle of the table. By forcing them to quickly decide between a forehand or backhand return, you can succeed in jamming them. Try using chops and pushes to slow down the game and rally for position.

Choppers - When playing a chopper, be patient. Defensive choppers succeed when you become impatient and make mistakes. Alternate your use of shots, favoring deep loops, and short pushes. This will often throw the chopper off enough to return a high ball which you can put away with a smash. The chopper is likely to try to force you to make errors by using a variety of amounts of underspin. Expect the chops to vary from no spin to light spin to very heavy underspin. Finally, work the chopper down the middle more than side to side. The sides are often a chopper's strength while many have problems with shots hit down the middle. Move the ball in and out and use the drop shot, especially to their forehand side.

Blockers - Blockers, just like choppers, are often defensive players. They try to get into a rhythm and move you out of position. As with the chopper, break their rhythm by varying the shots. Hit one deep and hard and then alternate with a short shot. Favor a high, spinny loop because blockers often like to use the power of their opponents to win points. Again, be patient, use just one power shot at a time, and sometimes trick the blocker into initiating an attack, in which they are usually weak.

Loopers - When playing a looper, especially a consistent one, patience is out the door. Beat an aggressive looper with aggressiveness. Do all you can to initiate the attack. Your goal is to put the looper on the defense, where they usually are weak. As with choppers, work the middle to keep the ball away from their strength- the sides.

Penholders - Penholders tend to heavily favor their forehand since the grip itself gives their forehand stroke a big advantage. The obvious strategy would seem to be to exploit their weaker backhand, but since many penholders display superb footwork, this is not as easy as it might seem. To work their backhand, you need to move the ball around, especially out wide. Do this in random fashion so they can't predict where you will direct the ball next.

Article from Pongworld but take a look at how to play against Penhold. Then try to put some thought into how to play with effectively.

Penholder Attackers generally stand within three feet of the table. The contact point on all strokes is as early as possible top of the bounce or rising. This is a forehand-dominated style with the player exhibiting a strong, quick pivot move to use the forehand from the backhand side. The Pips-Out Penholder wants to end points quickly and keeps great time pressure on his/her opponents, forcing many errors. This style has benefited from the new 40mm ball and the subsequent loss of about 10 % spin on their opponents loops.

This is probably the best way to implement the Penhold grip to effect and best attacking style.

[Desmond]

im from iran and i play in penholder style but i have troubles with it because nobody can help me in iran because nobody plays this style
can any body help me?

Hi! I use penhold as well. From my own experience, guys who use penhold tend to be more nimble and agressive in their play. They need to take bigger risks when attacking as they do not have the luxury of having a backhand flip. But having said that, the game has evolved tremendously. Just look at how China player, Wang hao plays. He's adapting his play to use his backflip as well. Go youtube and watch his matches. You might be able to get some insights and probably apply it into your game. Gone are the days where guys who adopt the shakehand style dominates the world of table tennis! :rocker:

[Mr Wilko]

backflip didnt realise Wang hao was also a gymnast?????

[HarryBelafonte]

world champ is shake hands wang li quin,euro champ timo boll shakehands,olympic champ penhold,ryu sung min,but old korean style,.....
I know what your saying wang hao is the boy but has won nowt yet...
:thtease:

[Mr Wilko]

peter lau was an average penholder with a exellent forehand but no backhand maybe now glue is banned and the game is getting slower and slower the penholders may stand more of a chance????

[IWW]

im from iran and i play in penholder style but i have troubles with it because nobody can help me in iran because nobody plays this style
can any body help me?
I play penhold. What do you want to know i may be able to help a little?

Anyway if this hasnt been mentioned earleir by Daver. When playing penhold try to practise your serves because this is where you will have advantage over your opponent( assuming hes a shakehand). Penholders also have a advantage with powerful forehand attacks and short game. You must also incorporate 3rd ball attacks into your game.

However there are down sides to using penhold. You will need to improve your footwork because of a weak backhand (although rpb could make up for it). Also try not to get in rallies because usually shakehands have the upper hand.

They are just kind of the basics of penhold which you might already know but thought its worth mentioning. :fcb:

[Mr Wilko]

im from iran and i play in penholder style but i have troubles with it because nobody can help me in iran because nobody plays this style
can any body help me?


change your grip to shakehands!!!! lol :rocker::rocker:

[Desmond]

Penhold is good!!! You can save quite a bit of money as well!!! LOL!!!

[Mehdi]

Penhold is good!!! You can save quite a bit of money as well!!! LOL!!!
thanks desmond
what do you mean of saving money?
bye the way your site was pretty good

[DaveR]

Hey saving money as in Rubber im taking it ?

Tell us Des!

[Mr Wilko]

come on lads ............. you only need to buy one sheet of rubber and just paint the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[Belisar]

If we are looking at strict legalities...

Do both sides need to be covered with an appropriate racket covering even if both sides arenot used to strike the ball ?

I always thought so.

If so I guess some cheapo covering will do :covereyes:

[Mr Wilko]

they might need to be now but didnt used to be around 10 years ago......... but as i am not a penhold player i do not really care i need 2 sheets of rubber no matter what!! lol